LP Info pls...

[EpicJim]

2 days ago I've got myself a 60s, Bourbon Burst, Epiphone LP Standard from my local Guitar Center.

Well, with all their greatness they took it off the wall and handed to me like as if it was an apple from a tree with nothing attached. No any kind of paper, spec sheet or tool or anything.

I understand it is not a $3000 Gibson Standard so it does not come with a hard case but at $700 + Tax at least it has to come with some sort of cheap a** gig bag or something.
That didn't bother me as much as this guitar was handed to me without any info.
I am 65 yrs old and in my life I never played a Gibson or any guitar with a humbuckers on it. I was always a Fender Telecaster guy since decades and as acoustic/electric I played either Taylor or Martin brands.
So I have no knowledge on humbuckers or any Les Paul specs etc. I assumed when you buy a brand new guitar from a corporate chain store it would come with some sort of information included.

In any case, when I registered here in order to search by my serial number all I got was where was it build and when... Useless info to me.
I already noticed the "Handcrafted in China" sticker behind the headstock and I don't really care about what city in China it was build.

So, as for the serial number I know it was built in February 2023... Anybody knows what Epiphone puts into these things? What model pups and electronics etc?

Thank you in advance,

SERIAL # 23021527465

 

[Paruwi]

Anybody knows what Epiphone puts into these things? What model pups and electronics etc?

specs:

Epiphone | Epiphone Les Paul Standard 60s

The Les Paul™ Standard 60s models from Epiphone’s new Inspired by Gibson™ Collection recreate the sound of 1960s era Les Pauls. Featuring a classic mahogany body with a maple cap, Grover® tuners, and powered by ProBucker™ humbuckers with CTS® potentiometers. Epiphone’s long friendship with Mr...

www.epiphone.com

Congrats on your first €pi
and
welcome here @ €piTalk

 

[syco]

Welcome !! As @Paruwi shows .... a quick internet search will give you a breakdown of the specs . CTS pots ..... Epiphone ProBucker 2 & 3 ( Epi's version of BurstBucker 2 & 3) , "modern" wiring scheme .

 

[soulman969]

2 days ago I've got myself a 60s, Bourbon Burst, Epiphone LP Standard from my local Guitar Center.

Well, with all their greatness they took it off the wall and handed to me like as if it was an apple from a tree with nothing attached. No any kind of paper, spec sheet or tool or anything.

I understand it is not a $3000 Gibson Standard so it does not come with a hard case but at $700 + Tax at least it has to come with some sort of cheap a** gig bag or something.
That didn't bother me as much as this guitar was handed to me without any info.
I am 65 yrs old and in my life I never played a Gibson or any guitar with a humbuckers on it. I was always a Fender Telecaster guy since decades and as acoustic/electric I played either Taylor or Martin brands.
So I have no knowledge on humbuckers or any Les Paul specs etc. I assumed when you buy a brand new guitar from a corporate chain store it would come with some sort of information included.

In any case, when I registered here in order to search by my serial number all I got was where was it build and when... Useless info to me.
I already noticed the "Handcrafted in China" sticker behind the headstock and I don't really care about what city in China it was build.

So, as for the serial number I know it was built in February 2023... Anybody knows what Epiphone puts into these things? What model pups and electronics etc?

Thank you in advance,

SERIAL # 23021527465

Welcome to the forum. You've also made a great choice for a guitar.

I see that Paruwi and Syco have already kicked in with some data for you. Is there anything else you'd like to know. If so ask away. There's a ton of knowledge about Epiphone guitars to found here and we're happy to answers whatever questions we can or direct you to a source for whatever info you're looking for.

 

[Equalphone]

FWIW, one thing Epi doesn't always do that well is setup... and they never set it up for how you like to play because they don't know your preferences. It's worth your while to watch a few videos on setting up an (Epi) LP. At the least you probably want to set the bridge height and intonation... all of which is easy to do and reversible so no worries about making mistakes. Setting the relief is also usually a feature (truss rod). Folks here can guide you after you do some research.

And yeah... it should have come in a box with paperwork like a warranty card. I don't know if they include an allen wrench for the truss rod. Contact the GC and tell them you want your paperwork and warranty. Or contact Epi first and ask them what should be in the package... then contact GC. I doubt that they still supply a printed manual.

Here's a generic Epi manual: http://images.epiphone.com.s3.amazonaws.com/Media/Manuals/EpiOwnrsManul.pdf

 

[syco]

FWIW, one thing Epi doesn't always do that well is setup... and they never set it up for how you like to play because they don't know your preferences. It's worth your while to watch a few videos on setting up an (Epi) LP. At the least you probably want to set the bridge height and intonation... all of which is easy to do and reversible so no worries about making mistakes. Setting the relief is also usually a feature (truss rod). Folks here can guide you after you do some research.

And yeah... it should have come in a box with paperwork like a warranty card. I don't know if they include an allen wrench for the truss rod. Contact the GC and tell them you want your paperwork and warranty. Or contact Epi first and ask them what should be in the package... then contact GC. I doubt that they still supply a printed manual.

Here's a generic Epi manual: http://images.epiphone.com.s3.amazonaws.com/Media/Manuals/EpiOwnrsManul.pdf

Last 5 I've bought ....... 3 from Epiphone directly , 2 from sweetwater ...... stickers ..... that's all that is included . Fender/Squire are the only ones that still include tools or paperwork .

 

[Equalphone]

Last 5 I've bought ....... 3 from Epiphone directly , 2 from sweetwater ...... stickers ..... that's all that is included . Fender/Squire are the only ones that still include tools or paperwork .

Not even a warranty card?

 

[syco]

2 days ago I've got myself a 60s, Bourbon Burst, Epiphone LP Standard from my local Guitar Center.

Well, with all their greatness they took it off the wall and handed to me like as if it was an apple from a tree with nothing attached. No any kind of paper, spec sheet or tool or anything.

I understand it is not a $3000 Gibson Standard so it does not come with a hard case but at $700 + Tax at least it has to come with some sort of cheap a** gig bag or something.
That didn't bother me as much as this guitar was handed to me without any info.
I am 65 yrs old and in my life I never played a Gibson or any guitar with a humbuckers on it. I was always a Fender Telecaster guy since decades and as acoustic/electric I played either Taylor or Martin brands.
So I have no knowledge on humbuckers or any Les Paul specs etc. I assumed when you buy a brand new guitar from a corporate chain store it would come with some sort of information included.

In any case, when I registered here in order to search by my serial number all I got was where was it build and when... Useless info to me.
I already noticed the "Handcrafted in China" sticker behind the headstock and I don't really care about what city in China it was build.

So, as for the serial number I know it was built in February 2023... Anybody knows what Epiphone puts into these things? What model pups and electronics etc?

Thank you in advance,

SERIAL # 23021527465

Honestly ... In todays "electronic " world ...... hardly anybody offers any "physical " paperwork . It's an online world these days .

 

[syco]

Not even a warranty card?

Nope ! Just some micro print saying to register @ epiphone .com

 

[imnotcreative]

Nope ! Just some micro print saying to register @ epiphone .com

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That is more than what came with any of my Epi's. All i got was the big black and white Epiphone sticker and a Grover hangtag (if Grovers came installed) and on the 59 it had a small hangtag explaining some of Epi's history.

 

[EpicJim]

First of all, Thank you for all the responses friends!

I am not going to reply individually to each one of you and bore you to death so here it goes for a summary...

- This is my first Les Paul and first ever guitar with humbuckers. I always had either a Tele or Strat for the last 48 years. Now at age 65, devil poked me in the butt at the guitar center and said "try it, try it, I dare you"... So I got one!

- So far guitar is great! Action could be a little lower than what it is right now but still, intonation is dead on! Guitar seems flawless and tones coming out of it is great. Neck feels greta too. Not a single fret buzz at anywhere and every note is ringing like a bell... I will still get it checked by a professional who is familiar with LP setups... I can watch and learn for me to do it next time but for the first time I'll let a pro handle it.

-My wife wanted me to get a Gibson Les Paul because she thinks Made in China products will fall apart shortly. So I went to GC today with my guitar in my hands nto make a comparison with a $3000 LP... For some reason it didn't feel right. Maybe that was those two LPs but even two of the employees played my Epi LP and those $3000 ones and they agreed and said if they were buying they will buy my Epi because it sounded better than those two. In all honesty, setup on those felt a little better to touch but not $2300 worth difference over my $700 Epi LP.

- As I understood there may be few improvements could be applied to my guitar like Locking Grover Tuners even though guuitar stays perfectly in tune as it is right now after 3-4 hrs of playing and sitting on its stand after an overnight rest. Nex day I pick up the guitar and it is perfectly in tune still. Just like my American Highway One Tele!

- I know everybody mentions on the Internet that $3000 Gibsons come with different pups. But instead of paying extra $2300 and getting a Gibson, can I pay $300 and get those pups and install them if they are so great? Again I have no idea what to expect more from my guitar because I am already extremely satisfied with the tones coming out of my guitar! So I won't bother for now!


I don't know if anything else needed other than the lowering the action a little and locking tuners... Then that's it...

Again thank you for all the responses!

 

[28 Flathead]

Welcome aboard Captian. @

EpicJim​

I juist bouht a new Gretsch in the same price range, same deal, no paperwork, no case (which I expected)

I hope you enjoy it .

 

[BGood]

First of all, Thank you for all the responses friends!

I am not going to reply individually to each one of you and bore you to death so here it goes for a summary...

- This is my first Les Paul and first ever guitar with humbuckers. I always had either a Tele or Strat for the last 48 years. Now at age 65, devil poked me in the butt at the guitar center and said "try it, try it, I dare you"... So I got one!

- So far guitar is great! Action could be a little lower than what it is right now but still, intonation is dead on! Guitar seems flawless and tones coming out of it is great. Neck feels greta too. Not a single fret buzz at anywhere and every note is ringing like a bell... I will still get it checked by a professional who is familiar with LP setups... I can watch and learn for me to do it next time but for the first time I'll let a pro handle it.

-My wife wanted me to get a Gibson Les Paul because she thinks Made in China products will fall apart shortly. So I went to GC today with my guitar in my hands nto make a comparison with a $3000 LP... For some reason it didn't feel right. Maybe that was those two LPs but even two of the employees played my Epi LP and those $3000 ones and they agreed and said if they were buying they will buy my Epi because it sounded better than those two. In all honesty, setup on those felt a little better to touch but not $2300 worth difference over my $700 Epi LP.

- As I understood there may be few improvements could be applied to my guitar like Locking Grover Tuners even though guuitar stays perfectly in tune as it is right now after 3-4 hrs of playing and sitting on its stand after an overnight rest. Nex day I pick up the guitar and it is perfectly in tune still. Just like my American Highway One Tele!

- I know everybody mentions on the Internet that $3000 Gibsons come with different pups. But instead of paying extra $2300 and getting a Gibson, can I pay $300 and get those pups and install them if they are so great? Again I have no idea what to expect more from my guitar because I am already extremely satisfied with the tones coming out of my guitar! So I won't bother for now!


I don't know if anything else needed other than the lowering the action a little and locking tuners... Then that's it...

Again thank you for all the responses!

Unless you want to speed up string changes by a few minutes of you time, there's absolutely no need to replace those tuners.

The Probuckers 2 & 3 in your LP are some of the best humbuckers out there. What you need to do is experiment with adjusting their height. Using a screwdriver is the easiest, fastest, cheapest and by far the most efficient way to a good tone. That is a fun thing to do. Take your time and you will find the sweet spot for each pickup. As a reference, I always start with lowering the neck pickup to the plastic ring level (or below) and go on from there.

 

[soulman969]

Nope ! Just some micro print saying to register @ epiphone .com

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What I do a facepalm over is the manufacturers who send $5 worth of useless stickers and hang tags that either get thrown in a drawer or pitched but can't be bothered to send a printed manual for the product.

 

[soulman969]

-My wife wanted me to get a Gibson Les Paul because she thinks Made in China products will fall apart shortly. So I went to GC today with my guitar in my hands nto make a comparison with a $3000 LP... For some reason it didn't feel right. Maybe that was those two LPs but even two of the employees played my Epi LP and those $3000 ones and they agreed and said if they were buying they will buy my Epi because it sounded better than those two. In all honesty, setup on those felt a little better to touch but not $2300 worth difference over my $700 Epi LP.

You're not alone in discovering how little difference there can be between top of the line Epiphones and their Gibson counterparts.

My jam buddy and I compared our '56 Gold Tops and our ES339s his Gibsons and mine Epiphones. The only real advantage the Gibson Gold Top had was the P90s were coil tapped and a bit gnarlier sounding when pushed. As for the ES339? He offered me $100 more for mine than I paid for it and had I agreed he would've sold his Gibson model.

I still have the '56 Gold Top but eventually I ended up trading that ES339 for a Lucille I used in trade for my Casino w/HSC. That worked out so well that I bought another ES339 like the first last summer and IMHO it's even better than the earlier model. In contrast to the Gold Top which is a 2008 Epiphone has been upping their game consistently.

You can also assure your wife that a MIC Epiphone won't fall apart either. There are members here who own Korean built models that are 20 years old and more that to some are more desirable than the current models. The QC out of Epiphones own plant in Qingdao is typically some of the best of any import line. They're rated in the top five.

Enjoy you new LP Captain.

 

[Equalphone]

You're not alone in discovering how little difference there can be between top of the line Epiphones and their Gibson counterparts.

My jam buddy and I compared our '56 Gold Tops and our ES339s his Gibsons and mine Epiphones. The only real advantage the Gibson Gold Top had was the P90s were coil tapped and a bit gnarlier sounding when pushed. As for the ES339? He offered me $100 more for mine than I paid for it and had I agreed he would've sold his Gibson model.

I still have the '56 Gold Top but eventually I ended up trading that ES339 for a Lucille I used in trade for my Casino w/HSC. That worked out so well that I bought another ES339 like the first last summer and IMHO it's even better than the earlier model. In contrast to the Gold Top which is a 2008 Epiphone has been upping their game consistently.

You can also assure your wife that a MIC Epiphone won't fall apart either. There are members here who own Korean built models that are 20 years old and more that to some are more desirable than the current models. The QC out of Epiphones own plant in Qingdao is typically some of the best of any import line. They're rated in the top five.

Enjoy you new LP Captain.

Stop making me feel bad that I haven't purchase any of the ES339's for sale in my area. I'm really GASing for one.

 

[Equalphone]

@EpicJim: I'm with @BGood on ther locking tuners. They don't hold strings any better in tune than standard tuners. They have an advantage if you have to make stage changes of strings. The only other advantage is that your strings stretch in sooner because there aren't extra wraps on the poles to settle in, but that's just a few minutes of playing.

If you want it to play like a Gibson, have a pro luthier you get a recommendation for in your area do a full setup. Not GC. A real luthier. Or, have it Pleked. As you say, if you want Gibson pickups you can get them, but the Probuckers are very good.

 

[soulman969]

Stop making me feel bad that I haven't purchase any of the ES339's for sale in my area. I'm really GASing for one.

Sorry......it's in my contract with Epiphone that I must create guilt in all members who do not own an ES339.

 

[BGood]

Sorry......it's in my contract with Epiphone that I must create guilt in all members who do not own an ES339.

Bad man, bad man ...

 

[Old Woody]

Unless you want to speed up string changes by a few minutes of you time, there's absolutely no need to replace those tuners.

The Probuckers 2 & 3 in your LP are some of the best humbuckers out there. What you need to do is experiment with adjusting their height. Using a screwdriver is the easiest, fastest, cheapest and by far the most efficient way to a good tone. That is a fun thing to do. Take your time and you will find the sweet spot for each pickup. As a reference, I always start with lowering the neck pickup to the plastic ring level (or below) and go on from there.

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Great advice I will add that even if you still don't like the way the humbuckers sound all is not lost because you can change the magnets from alnico 2's to alnico 4's or alnico 5's to 2's etc I always hear about changing out the pickups for new ones and it's waste of your hard earned cash when you can use what the maker put inside of your cranium. here's a video